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Kellogg Language in PERM Cases

November 1, 2012
Audio Seminar

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Kellogg Language in PERM Cases

This 90 minute audio seminar was originally presented live on November 1, 2012, from 2:00 pm-3:30 pm eastern time

This panel focuses on alternative requirements in PERM labor certification cases and the use of Kellogg language. Discussion includes the recent adjudication trends by Department of Labor (DOL), as well as BALCA decisions on the topic. Is the DOL substituting its judgment for that of the employer in determining who is a qualified job applicant? Is DOL's recent interpretation of the Kellogg language resulting in the broadening of the employer's actual minimum requirements? Panelists address practical tips on how employers can state alternative job requirements on the ETA-9089 as well as the ETA-9141.

  • When is Kellogg Language Required? If an Employer Lists It on Form-9089, then What Does that Mean for the Employer's Review of Job Applicants?
  • What Exactly Does "Any Suitable Combination" Mean?
  • What Are Substantially Equivalent Alternative Requirements? Does the SVP Have to Be Equal?
  • Recent Developments with Kellogg Language in Light of BALCA Decisions in Cases such as Federal Insurance, Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgan
  • Alternative Requirements Now Have to Be Listed on the Form-9141 Prevailing Wage Request to DOL


Kevin Miner (dl), AILA Department of Labor Liaison Committee, Atlanta, GA
Kevin Miner is a partner in the Atlanta office of Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP. Mr. Miner practices business immigration, with a particular focus on compliance issues. He also has significant experience in PERM and prevailing wage issues, as well as defense of H-1B LCA audits. Mr. Miner currently serves as vice chair of the AILA DOL Liaison Committee. He has spoken regularly at seminars regarding immigration developments.

Lisa Baker Jones, San Francisco, CA
Lisa Baker Jones is an associate attorney with Weaver Schlenger Mazel, LLP. She counsels corporations, universities, research institutes, and other entities and individuals in immigration and nationality law matters. Ms. Baker holds the position of vice-chair for AILA’s Northern California Chapter, has served on the chapter’s Advisory Council for several years, and has been named by her peers as a Super Lawyers Rising Star in Northern California since 2009 for excellence in immigration law.

Pamela Genise, Owings Mills, MD
Pamela Genise is a supervising attorney in the Green Card department at The Murthy Law Firm, before which she was an immigration attorney at Wasserman, Mancini & Chang. Ms. Genise earned her B.A. from Mount Holyoke College and her J.D. from George Washington University. Ms. Genise has served as an adjunct professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law, and has participated in various panels on immigration issues.

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The " Kellogg Language in PERM Cases" audio seminar takes place Thursday, November 1, 2012, at the times noted below:

2:00 pm-3:30 pm eastern time
1:00 pm-2:30 pm central time
12:00 pm-1:30 pm mountain time
11:00 am-12:30 pm pacific time

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